Who is the Ancient of Days?

Godhead – Who is the Ancient of Days ?

I TIMOTHY 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

It is not easy for humans to get an understanding of God because God is invisible.

Mystery involves trying to combine opposite characteristics into one person.

Can a king be a servant?

Can God be a man?

REVELATION 10:7

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

The ministry of the seventh angel or messenger is to reveal to us a better understanding of the Godhead.

Trinity is an unscriptural word. So relying on a word that is outside the Bible won’t help us to understand the Bible better.

It is also a fuzzy idea that alternates between one God and three Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Each of the three separate Persons is God, and yet there are not three Gods. No clear cut picture emerges, which means that we do not understand this presentation of the mystery of God. The Godhead remains a mystery to Trinitarians, sometimes One and sometimes Three. Ask a Trinitarian for the Name of God and they refer back to the Titles of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, as in water baptism. But three Titles are not a Name. So even the Name of God is fuzzy as there are Three People but no one can come up with a single Name to describe all Three.

One of the main Scriptures that is used to defend the idea of the Trinity is in Daniel.

DANIEL 7:9

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10    A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

DANIEL 7:13

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

This distinctly looks like two Persons and is thus used as evidence of the Trinity.

But this Scripture seems to refer to two people, not three. The Jehovah Witness belief is that two People form the Godhead, Father and Son. This Scripture actually offers evidence in favour of their belief, rather than confirming belief in the Trinity.

Two things are impossible for us humans to explain from natural events:

Creation and redemption.

The most basic law of Physics is called the conservation of energy. We do not know what energy is but in no experiment that has ever been performed have we ever managed to create energy or destroy energy. So energy cannot be created. The Big Bang theory tries to explain the origin of the Universe by saying that all the energy in the Universe was suddenly created in a huge explosion. This is an exact contradiction of the most basic law of Physics and is thus false from a scientific point of view. We cannot claim to be scientific if we develop theories that contradict the laws of Science.

So no laws of Science, within our physical Universe, can explain creation.

Thus creation can only be explained by Someone who is outside our physical Universe, namely God. And no scientist can explain how God did it because the second most basic law of Physics tells us that all of our laws of Science deal with decay and the degrading of energy, due to effects like friction that transfer useful energy out of a working system to produce random heating effects that cannot be easily collected and used to perform useful work. Empires rise and then fall as human effort finally ends in failure. People grow up and then become frail and die. Our brief years of achievement always end in death and decay. It can take 20 000 litres of water to grow one kilogram of rice as irrigation water trickles away and evaporates.

Far  more effort and energy must be put into making something than the energy that we can get out of it.

How many hours of effort are put into a wedding compared to the few hours that the wedding actually takes?

For instance, it takes far more energy to make a battery than all the energy that we can get out of the battery.

We depend on the Sun for light and warmth but the Earth only receives about one part in 200 million parts of the Sun’s energy. The rest is “wasted” from our point of view as it radiates out into empty space from the Sun and we can never collect it and use it. Of the Sun’s energy that does strike the Earth, only about  1%  is used by plants to turn water and carbon dioxide gas into food. This is what we depend on to live. We cannot make our own food. We depend on plants which get their energy from the Sun. Plants perform a mystery that our best scientists cannot duplicate. If we understood this mystery, we could make our own food from the Sun’s energy.

So when Jesus was on Earth, He created cooked bread and fish to feed five thousand men as well as the women and children that were with them. A small input of five loaves resulted in a staggering output of more than five thousand loaves. He was capable of totally reversing the laws of Science.

MATTHEW 14:21

And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

He took a small input of five loaves and then produced an output of more than five thousand loaves.

Nobody ever did that before or since. He walked on water and then at His ascension, He walked up into the air. We cannot duplicate those feats which proved that He was a Creator as well as being beyond our laws of Physics. He then raised to life the stinking body of Lazarus proving that He could reverse the laws of decay.

Another thing that humans cannot explain is redemption or forgiveness of sins.

We can try hard to live better and commit less sins but we can never be sinless.

Our good deeds cannot wipe out our bad deeds.

So how can we get rid of our sins and, more importantly, get rid of the desire to sin?

These are two mysteries of God’s power that need an explanation.

ISAIAH 43:1

But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

So in God is combined two characteristic abilities : to create and to redeem or save.

Not two People but one Person who can do two acts that are impossible for humans to do. God creates us as we cannot create ourselves and redeems us as we cannot redeem ourselves.

How does He redeem us from sin?

LEVITICUS 16:8

And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

9    And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD’S lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.

10    But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

LEVITICUS 16:15

Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:

Redemption also has a mystery. Two things have to be done. One goat has to die and shed its blood. The other goat has to carry the sins of the people far away.

Jesus solved this problem by being Emmanuel, God with us.

God is a Spirit and the fullness of God’s Spirit lived inside the Body of Jesus.

When He died, He gave up the Ghost as the Holy Spirit left His Body.

JAMES 2:26

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

His physical Body took on our sins and He shed His holy Blood to wash our sins away. His Holy Spirit left His Body and then carried our sins down to hell and cast them back onto the Devil, who is the father of sin.

So one Person, Jesus, did what two goats had to do. He shed His innocent Blood ( animals are sinless and thus He is called the Lamb of God ) and then carried our sins far away, down into the depths of hell to dump our sins back onto the Devil, who is the source of sin.

ISAIAH 53:6

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

 

HEBREWS 1:1

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2    Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3    Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

God’s invisible Spirit lived inside the Man Jesus and expressed Himself by the way Jesus acted and behaved. His visible actions and words expressed Who was within Him.

COLOSSIANS 1:15

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

COLOSSIANS 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

JOHN 3:34

For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

Jesus was the fullness of God, in a human Man. God’s invisible Spirit lived inside the Man Jesus. Thus Jesus was the physical Person Who God used to show Himself to mankind.

Any other person, at most, could only have a part of God’s Spirit.

JOHN 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

So Jesus fuses two opposites together. God and Man. He bears our burdens and died for us to carry our sins far away and as such He is our Servant, yet He is also our King and we must live to serve Him.

Part of the mystery of God is that in Jesus we can find two opposites that are impossible for anyone else to combine in one person.

He was a dead Sacrifice and yet at the same time a living sin-bearer.

A Man Who sails on water or walks on water.

A Man Who breathes air or who walks upward into the air.

A Man Who eats food or creates cooked food.

So Scripture is dedicated to combining in Christ, totally opposite characteristics.

Jesus is a  Man who died and yet Who rose from the dead. No other religious leader managed to do that.

DANIEL 7:13

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Does this represent two People? Or is this Personification where we picture a human characteristic as if it is a Person?

Two opposite characteristics unite in Christ.

He is the Judge who will not relax the high standards of the Law. Yet He is a Saviour who can somehow redeem us sinners who have failed to meet these standards.

No other person could unite these qualifications in a single person.

The Son of Man is obviously Jesus.

MATTHEW 16:13

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

Who is the Ancient of Days?

There is no Scripture that says He is God the Father.

Can the Ancient of Days be Jesus?

DANIEL 7:9

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10    A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

The Ancient of Days is the Judge.  He has hair like pure wool. A judge used to wear a woolen wig to show that he was under the authority of the law. This ancient tradition is still carried on in England.

The woolen wig is made from the wool of a lamb. Jesus is the Lamb of God.

JOHN 1:29

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Now let us look at a vision of Jesus as seen by John the revelator.

REVELATION 1:13

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

REVELATION 1:14

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

A judge’s wig is made of lamb’s wool.

Jesus is the Lamb of God.

REVELATION 14:14

And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

The Son of Man ( Jesus ) has a woolen wig and the sickle of judgement to cut down the sinners.

 

JOHN 5:22

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

 

Thus the Judge, the Ancient of Days, cannot be God the Father.

If the Ancient of Days is God the Father then the Son of Man, Who is our Saviour, stands beside Him.

ISAIAH 43:11

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah makes it plain, there is no Saviour standing beside God in heaven.

 

How can Jesus be seen standing next to God when God is invisible?.

I JOHN 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time.

How can Jesus be seen standing next to an invisible God?  Then only one Person would be visible, not two.

ISAIAH 45:21

Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

HOSEA 13:4

Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

You can never look into heaven and see a Saviour standing next to God.

JOB 12:12

With the ancient is wisdom; and in length of days understanding.

God became a Man so that we could realise that He can understand how humans think because he has shared our experience of living on earth with its problems, its unfairness, its prejudices, its violence, its thanklessness and false accusations. He experienced all this and overcame. Thus we can rest assured that He understands our situation because He went through worse suffering than what we have to go through.

Ancient refers wisdom that has accumulated over many years.

ISAIAH 51:9

Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?

10    Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?

The Ancient of Days did miracles in the past when He opened the Red sea for Moses and two million Jews to pass through the waters and He can do so again today as He is still the same Person.

JOHN 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is the Word of God. So Jesus has been around for a long time. He was already there at the beginning of time.

JOHN 8:58

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Abraham was called in about 1921 BC.

Jesus was around even before then.

DANIEL 3:25

He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Jesus was around in the days of Daniel. He is always present when we are in trouble.

I PETER 1:11

Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

So Jesus was in all the ancient prophets, guiding them to fulfil bits of His future ministry.

For example, Joseph was hated by his brothers who wanted to kill him. He was falsely accused in Egypt. He was imprisoned with two criminals, a baker who died and a butler who lived. He then went on to save Egypt and took a Gentile bride.

Jesus was hated by His brethren the Jews who demanded His death. He was falsely accused before Pilate. He was crucified between two criminals. The one accepted Him and got eternal life, the other rejected Him and died and went to hell. His death is remembered by the two items in the Lord’s supper  ( which should be done at night time as it is not the Lord’s breakfast ). The unleavened bread of the Passover is broken as a symbol of His Body that died. That is why the baker died. The wine is a symbol of the Life in His Blood which is the Holy Spirit. That is why the butler, who served Pharaoh with wine, lived. Every prophet acted out some portion of the Life of Christ.

Enoch was a prophet before the Flood, and Christ was in him.

JUDE 1:14

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Enoch, who never died and was taken up to heaven as he lived out the ascension of Jesus into heaven.

Jesus ascended to heaven to sit on the mercy seat where He is now the Saviour of this world, for those who want to accept Him. Then He will return to Judge this world.

Through 2 000 years of the seven church ages He is calling out a Bride ( His true church ) mainly from the Gentile nations.

GENESIS 5:24

And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

So Christ is Ancient. But He never ages as He is outside of time.

REVELATION 1:15

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

His feet walked across the fires of hell as He took our sins and dumped them on the Devil.

REVELATION 1:5

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

PSALM 85:10

Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

Not two People. Two manifestations unite in Christ.  Personification, as if mercy and truth are two different people.

The Ancient of days is the Judge who knows and demands the truth. The Son of Man is the Advocate who understands us and pleads for us.

He knows we are sinners but equally He paid the price for sin and thus can cleanse us.

He does not lower the standards ( as the Judge ) but because He paid the price for sin, He can cleanse us from sin.

I JOHN 2:1

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Advocate – one who pleads another’s cause before a judge

The Judge sits to maintain the standards of the Law and the Advocate stands to plead for the guilty who have repented and can thus claim forgiveness.

DANIEL 7:21

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22    Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

It is Jesus who is coming.

I KINGS 10:4

And when the queen of Sheba had seen all Solomon’s wisdom, and the house that he had built,

A woman symbolizes a church. The Bride of Christ.

II CORINTHIANS 11:2

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Saint Paul calls the church a woman.

Solomon,  the son of David, had wisdom and built a house.

Jesus, the greater Son of David, has wisdom from being around for the thousands of years of human existence and He has called out a Bride over seven church ages where each age had its particular problems. The seventh church age has to return to the beliefs of the first church age ( where the word “pastors” is only mentioned once and thus should not dominate the church ) and our main problem is that there are too many versions of churchianity and we somehow have to find the truth by coming back to Scripture, not to plausible opinions.

MATTHEW 1:1

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David

PROVERBS 9:1

Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:

I CHRONICLES 28:11

Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,

12    And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:

The man who built had to get the pattern from his father. He could not follow his own wisdom.

ROMANS 8:14

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

I CORINTHIANS 3:16

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Only our spiritual Father Jesus, who is the Word of God, can guide us in how to build the spiritual Temple of God’s seventh church age.

The Temple that God wants, not the temple that suits us.

God’s will, not my selfish will.